Name: Fortescue’s Andrew Forrest: Green Energy Is Faster and Cheaper Than Oil and Gas
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Description: Andrew Forrest, founder and executive chairman of Fortescue, speaks with WSJ Leadership Institute President Alan Murray, and says renewable energy is quicker to bring into production, is already the lowest-cost option for business, and that global leaders must stand by science despite political backlash.

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Andrew Forrest, founder and executive chairman of Fortescue, speaks with WSJ Leadership Institute President Alan Murray, and says renewable energy is quicker to bring into production, is already the lowest-cost option for business, and that global leaders must stand by science despite political backlash. Photo: Michael Claudio/WSJ

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Andrew Forrest, founder and executive chairman of Fortescue, speaks with WSJ Leadership Institute President Alan Murray, and says renewable energy is quicker to bring into production, is already the lowest-cost option for business, and that global leaders must stand by science despite political backlash.

Fortescue’s Andrew Forrest: Green Energy Is Faster and Cheaper Than Oil and Gas

I am here with Andrew Forrest, who is founder and executive chairman of Fortescue. It's one of the world's largest iron ore mining companies. An amazing story, by the way, what you've built there and now increasingly going into renewable new, excuse me, renewable energy.

Yeah, correct. And also, everything is sustainable, like green iron ore, green steel, green energy, green equipment, where we're going up and down the food chain because we're seeing the technology change so quickly that we're gonna be able to produce products which green customers around the world want at around the same or better prices than gray. Well, does it bother you then that that green energy sustainability, all those topics have been dropped from the agenda here at Davos?

Yeah, look, it really surprises me because I've felt I'm dealing with some political and business leaders of real conviction. They've heard this line that, oh, oil, gas, and coal is the way to go. Actually, let's just run the numbers. I mean, I ran into the secretary of state of commerce last night and just put the number to 'em. I said, look, I'd buy you coal, oil, and gas mate, but it's too expensive. I've got renewable energy. It's cheaper. I've gotta compete with the rest of the world. I got to deliver to your customers, your people, the lowest cost product. So I'm using renewable energy.

Well, so maybe you don't need the lift of Davos anymore, that the business logic has become strong enough that you can make this happen regardless.

Well, that's with leadership. So I'm saying to all of my fellow leaders in business and politics to say, hey, you are your values. That's all you are. I mean, and if you drop your values just 'cause there's pressure on them or people don't agree with 'em, or you get political pushback, then well, who actually are you? Because you've been making business decisions on your value set for now, I'm sure decades. So, just because the winds are blown against renewables. Right when ironically, technology's making renewables so competitive. I mean, I can build massive power plants in renewables inside a year. I can power them with AI inside a second. I mean, you try and do that with oil and gas. You're looking at a decade.

And how's that message landing with the folks here in Davos?

Well, they can't question it, because we are a seriously heavy industry company. We're the highest performing company as well on the Australian Stock Exchange in history. And they know we do tens of billions of dollars of projects. It's our bread and butter. And if we are going green, it's not 'cause we're awake, it's 'cause this is very economic and it's the right thing by our shareholders.

So while Green, green energy, green iron may be making progress, demands for energy also exploding, the data warehouse issue has certainly caused a big increase. How does the calculation work out? Where, how far are we from net zero now in your mind?

Well, look, in the United States as far away as you've ever been, but as a result, you've seen this sad, and I want to emphasize, this sad predicted delta happening between data centers to open up in China or elsewhere paying more for their energy in the United States. So I mean, the US having all its bets on oil and gas, I mean, he's gotta take Venezuela to try and prove that he's right on oil and gas. But, still that's gonna take years. Those, to build those things out take decades. So I'd just say this to the world: renewable energy on a 24/7 base load basis to be proved by my company within three years. Now, we're not talking three decades. We're talking within three years is coming. Base load green energy cheaper than your oil and gas. And I'm not just talking operating cost, I'm talking capital cost. I'm talking implementation time, I'm talking simplicity. I can, I can change change.

And it doesn't need subsidies and it doesn't need the support of the US government. You can make it happen.

I have subsidies against me. I have subsidies for diesel, which I'm dropping a billion liters off.

I mean I gotta, I gotta compete against subsidies for my competitor. So yes, it works.

So if you could get the folks here in Davos this week to commit to one thing in 2026, what would that one thing be?

It would be values. Stick to your values. Don't drop them just because you've had some backlash from a government saying, oh, we believe in science when it comes to computers. We don't believe in science when it comes to environment. You can't pick and choose, mate. Either science is rubbish or science is true. But don't say I'm doing AI 'cause I've got the best computer scientist. Then by the way, climate science doesn't matter. It doesn't work. You're either there or you're not, mate. You believe in science or not. If you believe in science, climate science is changing everything. Technology of renewable energy is changing everything.

Andrew Forrest, a powerful message you're here to deliver. Thank you, thank you for doing it, and good luck to you.

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