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A New Jersey Upset and Progressives’ Primary Power

In order for us to get control and to ensure that we have safety in our streets for all people, we must abolish ICE. We must turn off the spigot. We must stop the data collection. We must stop the immunity. We must have accountability.

She ran on a far left platform that included abolishing ICE. And on Tuesday, Annalilia Mejia declared victory in the Democratic primary to replace New Jersey Governor Mikie Sherrill in Congress. The surprise win is gaining nationwide attention with Axios claiming that the left smells blood after the Bernie Sanders backed Mejia came from behind to defeat so-called establishment Democrats in the race, including former Congressman Tom Malinowski. Here's Sanders at a rally with Mejia last month.

What we've gotta do, it's not only defeat Republicans, it's not good enough to elect establishment Democrats.

Let's bring in Democratic pollster and strategist, Doug Schoen. He served as an advisor to President Bill Clinton and former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg. Doug, good to see you again.

So-

Thanks so much.

Ms. Mejia was outspent by Malinowski by a lot and yet still won. What does that tell you about the energy in the Democratic primaries? This was not a urban district, this is a suburban district, at least much of it.

Paul, what it tells me and something we've discussed previously is that the energy, the enthusiasm in the Democratic Party is on the progressive left. And my party, unless it can heal these divisions before the midterms is heading in a way that will make picking up seats in both the House and the Senate much more challenging.

Well, so what's going on here that explains this? Mejia seems to have pinned a lot of her support and themes on ICE, against ICE. Saying look, and this is in the wake of the Minnesota debacles. So is ICE becoming, abolishing ICE becoming a kind of litmus test in the Democratic party?

It is for those on the progressive left, as you know, and I think most people understand, there is a perception that ICE has overreached in Minneapolis and Minnesota and generally, but there is a desire to halt illegal immigration and there is a desire to send back people who are here illegally, particularly criminal aliens. And I would just tell you if this becomes like the "Defund the Police" was a litmus test in 2020, it will read down to the detriment of my party. And this victory certainly will increase the voices of the progressives who oppose ICE in any shape, manner, or form.

Well, so, but Doug, the question is whether or not in a contested Democratic primary, a candidate, an incumbent or a challenger can win by saying, yes, I support funding ICE with the nuance that you have that maybe they went too far in Minneapolis, and I point to Tom Suozzi, who's the incumbent Democrat on Long Island. It's a swing district, he's a center's democrat. He basically did a maxima mea culpa, I'm sorry I ever voted for the funding for the Department of Homeland Security to try to prevent him losing a primary.

Right, and I think what we're gonna see is even moderates like myself will lead with the overreaching of ICE and explain how ICE needs to be reigned in rather than talking about illegal immigration. That will help in a primary, I think, but in general elections, Paul, this fall, it could be very harmful to a Democratic Party that is still trailing President Trump and the Republicans on most key issues like the economy and yes, immigration.

Alright, so what are you seeing elsewhere in primaries for the House and the Senate? Are you seeing this kind of trend where there's a broad, there's a lot of democratic challengers from the left. Is Bernie Sanders really handpicking these candidates, and they're likely to kind of more of them sweep into victory in the primaries?

I think that might be a bit of an overstatement, but we are seeing in a number of key House and Senate races, I think of the main race in particular where the popular governor, who is I think 78, Janet Mills is being challenged by a lobster fisherman who is very competitive with her in the polls. And we're seeing similar challenges in Minnesota, other states. And I think where you started is the problem, the energy and the enthusiasm is with the progressive wing and Bernie Sanders and AOC are, to me, the leading voices for change in the Democratic Party and in the Democratic primary. And I hope people who have been prominently displayed on your op-ed page, like former Chief of Staff and ambassador to Japan, Rahm Emanuel, increasingly have a voice. But right now the energy, enthusiasm and indeed power in primaries is with the progressive left. This victory for Mejia is only gonna stimulate and embolden them.

It seems to me, Doug, that in the Senate in particular, Democrats have a shot at taking back the Senate given the trend against the Republicans in the polling. But you've got opportunities in Texas, Maine, you mentioned Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, and elsewhere. But if the left wing candidate wins, that may help Republicans hold the Senate.

Well, that's exactly what I believe. Even the existence of these bitter primaries polarizes the party and makes it less likely for Democrats to come together. The other problem, Paul, is we don't have a voice that speaks concertedly to working class Democrats about the economy. We can't win without that.