Name: America Doesn’t Do Fascism
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Description: Unruly Republic: Donald Trump is far more interesting than the fascist dictator living in the liberal imagination.

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Unruly Republic: Donald Trump is far more interesting than the fascist dictator living in the liberal imagination. Photo: Aaron Schwartz/Robin Rayne/CNP via ZUMA Press Wire

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Unruly Republic: Donald Trump is far more interesting than the fascist dictator living in the liberal imagination.

America Doesn’t Do Fascism

Protesters: No ICE, no KKK, no fascist USA.

Barton: At the end of December, 2025, investor Ben Horowitz said, "The clearest sign that we are not actually in a bubble is the fact that everyone is talking about a bubble."

Protesters: ICE out of New York!

You could say the same about fascism. Under the real thing, people know what's happening without needing a lot of eggheads and politicos to tell them. Yet, since 2016, Donald Trump's fiercest critics have from time to time reached for the word "fascism" to explain their troubles.

This is not politics as usual, my friends. This is authoritarianism. It's fascism dressed in a red tie.

Also settling on it, last summer was Minnesota Governor Tim Walz.

These are fascist policies meant to take away art, that is what they are.

Barton: In January, he went further.

Many of us grew up reading that story of Anne Frank.

Barton: Making a discreditable comparison between people worried about immigration raids and Anne Frank.

Barton: Somebody's gonna write that children's story about Minnesota.

Elsewhere the Atlantic just published an essay "Yes, It's Fascism" in which a Brookings Institution scholar draws up a series of categories, demolition of norms, might is right, police state tactics, blood and soil nationalism that in his view described both Mr. Trump and classical fascism of the 1930s

Point I make in the article, which I think is important, is that America's now a hybrid regime because it has a fascist leader, but a liberal constitution.

You could write the same sort of clever essay to show that Barack Obama is a socialist, or that Zohran Mamdani is a communist.

I was elected as a democratic socialist and I will govern as a democratic socialist.

But unlike Mr. Obama and Mamdani who hold coherent worldviews, at least partially consistent with socialism and communism respectively, Mr. Trump has no categorizable worldview.

Are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist?

I've spoken about?

That's okay. You could just say yes.

Okay, alright. Okay.

The suffixes is and ism assume conscious belief.

It's easier than explaining it. I don't mind.

Barton: You can't be a fascist or a socialist or a communist without in any way meaning to be one.

For those who have been wronged and betrayed, of which there are many people out there that have been wronged and betrayed, I am your retribution. We will take care of it.

Barton: It's true in fairness to liberals who have mistaken Mr. Trump for a fascist over the past decade, that the president sometimes acts and sounds like a strong man.

They're people, radical left.

Barton: He understands constitutional limits when he wants to and doesn't when he doesn't.

Morning ma'am.

Morning.

Barton: In his second term, he has used the Justice Department to target his foes, though in comically inept ways that diminish his polling numbers and turn those foes into heroes.

My heart is broken for the Department of Justice.

Barton: The president has chaffed at constitutional limits, but hasn't declared himself exempt from them except in goading asides.

He says, you're not gonna be a dictator, are you? I said, no, no, no, other than day one.

Barton: And amusingly, he takes an interest in buildings, which is weird, but doesn't hurt anything but sensibilities.

The so-called Kennedy Center Board wants to rename the Kennedy Center after Donald Trump. Are you kidding me?

Barton: These are things that make Mr. Trump more interesting and more puzzling and exasperating than the latter day fascist of liberal imagination. He has far more in common with Andrew Jackson than with Buzz Winddrip, anti-hero of Sinclair Lewis's novel "It Can't Happen Here."

I'm staying til the problem's gone.

Strong men don't do what President Trump did in Minneapolis, moderate in response to the public's perception that his policy has gone awry. Without acknowledging it, he removed Homeland Security Secretary, Kristi Noem, and Board of Patrol Chief Greg Bovino from operations and replace them with the more experienced and professional Tom Holman.

No agency organization is perfect, President Trump and I, along with others in administration, have recognized that certain improvements could and should be made.

The descriptor fascist, which is really only a highfalutin term for Nazi, does what other words don't. It places its object outside the company of lawful American actors. It was an approach Gavin Newsom took in 2024, opening his state of the state address like this.

I begin today with a warning from the past. It was January 2nd, 1939, that anxious moment in history, the world was on edge as fascism spread its hate and destruction through Europe.

Barton: Then a few months later, as election day neared came this reaction to Mr. Trump's announcement that he'd be holding a rally in New York City.

Please Google Madison Square Garden February the 10th, 1939 and see what happened. There they are telling you exactly what they're going to do. They're telling you we're going to institute a fascist regime.

I assume Mr. Walz, Newsom, and Carville know the difference between the Gestapo and federal ICE agents. And between detention centers for illegal immigrants and Bergen Belsen because some not insubstantial number of these politicians, listeners take their assertions and calls to action both seriously and literally

Take out that phone and hit record.

American public figures have a duty to think better of their country than to believe it capable of putting a fascist in the White House? Some of them might ponder the possibility that President Trump wouldn't be there at all, where it not for excesses they cheered at the time.

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